Comments on: Python for Series 60 Goes Final http://blog.teemu.im/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/ i'm teemu and this is my weblog Wed, 01 Jun 2011 15:00:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Teemu http://blog.teemu.im/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/comment-page-1/#comment-1200 Teemu Fri, 13 Jul 2007 06:02:51 +0000 http://www.teemuharju.net/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/#comment-1200 Thanks Jukka for clarification. How about if I want to distribute my Python application that needs more capabilities than the user-grantable allows. Could I send my app to symbiansigned.com for signing? Thanks Jukka for clarification. How about if I want to distribute my Python application that needs more capabilities than the user-grantable allows. Could I send my app to symbiansigned.com for signing?

]]> By: Jukka Laurila http://blog.teemu.im/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/comment-page-1/#comment-1199 Jukka Laurila Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:38:18 +0000 http://www.teemuharju.net/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/#comment-1199 Matti, note that you can send SMS and access contacts with the user-grantable capabilities so selfsigning is enough. You don't need a devcert for those. Matti, note that you can send SMS and access contacts with the user-grantable capabilities so selfsigning is enough. You don’t need a devcert for those.

]]> By: Jukka Laurila http://blog.teemu.im/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/comment-page-1/#comment-1198 Jukka Laurila Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:36:43 +0000 http://www.teemuharju.net/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/#comment-1198 The DLLs are signed with "ALL -TCB -DRM -AllFiles", but DLL capabilities don't give capabilities to an application - they just determine if an application can load the DLL or not. Capabilities come from the EXE - in case of Python that's the script shell or the stub EXE in your py2sis wrapped package. We can't distribute an app that would run arbitrary code with the full freedevcert capabilities, and this is why the default scriptshell only has user-grantable capabilities. If you need more, you need to get a devcert and sign the other scriptshell package with it. The last word from symbiansigned.com seems to be that they'll re-enable getting devcerts as soon as they get the server problems solved. The DLLs are signed with “ALL -TCB -DRM -AllFiles”, but DLL capabilities don’t give capabilities to an application – they just determine if an application can load the DLL or not. Capabilities come from the EXE – in case of Python that’s the script shell or the stub EXE in your py2sis wrapped package.

We can’t distribute an app that would run arbitrary code with the full freedevcert capabilities, and this is why the default scriptshell only has user-grantable capabilities. If you need more, you need to get a devcert and sign the other scriptshell package with it.

The last word from symbiansigned.com seems to be that they’ll re-enable getting devcerts as soon as they get the server problems solved.

]]> By: Teemu http://blog.teemu.im/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/comment-page-1/#comment-1197 Teemu Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:24:15 +0000 http://www.teemuharju.net/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/#comment-1197 Oh, I just read that the script shell has less capabilities than the actual Python interpreter package. The interpreted package should have all the same capabilities as the developer certificate has. Maybe there is something to be taken into account when making the .sis file. That developer certificate applying process thing sounds cool. I was sort of wondering why they had made it so easy. Now it has been fixed. ;) Oh, I just read that the script shell has less capabilities than the actual Python interpreter package. The interpreted package should have all the same capabilities as the developer certificate has. Maybe there is something to be taken into account when making the .sis file. That developer certificate applying process thing sounds cool. I was sort of wondering why they had made it so easy. Now it has been fixed. ;)

]]> By: Matti http://blog.teemu.im/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 Matti Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:21:14 +0000 http://www.teemuharju.net/2007/07/10/python-for-series-60-goes-final/#comment-1196 Sorry to disappoint you, but it seems that you still have to sign your own apps in order to use those extra capabilities. I tried to send SMS and access contacts and that did not work until I signed my app. However, from the Python script shell you can send SMS etc. Also the process of applying for developer certificates has changed, which makes the process even more difficult than before. Now you have to send email; I have my email pending - hopefully not for too long... Sorry to disappoint you, but it seems that you still have to sign your own apps in order to use those extra capabilities. I tried to send SMS and access contacts and that did not work until I signed my app. However, from the Python script shell you can send SMS etc. Also the process of applying for developer certificates has changed, which makes the process even more difficult than before. Now you have to send email; I have my email pending – hopefully not for too long…

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